In the warmth of Saturday evening, 23rd November, the Church leaders interacted in a scenic and calm atmosphere at a socialization event on the compound of the East Legon congregation. The Chief Editor and Reporter for the NAC Ghana Website, Bishop Eric Ampadu (Rtd) caught up with the Chief Apostle, Jean Luc-Schneider, and District Apostles Michael Ehrich (South Germany), Edy Isnugroho (South East Asia) and Kububa Soko (Zambia, Malawi & Zimbabwe). Below are excerpts of his interactions with them.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: This might be your last visit to Ghana as the Chief Apostle of the New Apostolic Church. What are your thoughts on the people here? And as you approach retirement, what do you hope to be remembered for?
The Chief Apostle: It’s always a great joy and blessing for me to be in Ghana. The people here are incredibly faithful, with many dedicated brothers and sisters, and servants truly committed to the Lord. Honestly, I don’t worry about how people remember me. What matters most is that they remain faithful to Jesus Christ. They can forget me—that’s not important. If they stay true to Jesus, I consider my work fulfilled.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: Will we have the chance to see you again after your retirement? Is that possible?
The Chief Apostle: After retirement, I won’t be traveling much. Traveling isn’t really my preference, and it’s also quite expensive. I believe it would be more beneficial for the international Church to invest in other initiatives rather than spending resources on a retired Chief Apostle’s travels.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: Technology plays a big role in our daily lives now. However, it seems to have led some members to stay home and watch divine services online rather than attending in person. Does this concern you as the international church leader?
The Chief Apostle: It's a complex issue. On the one hand, nothing can replace attending divine services in person—it's the only way to celebrate Holy Communion, receive blessings, and experience true fellowship with Jesus Christ in the congregation. You can’t fully experience that by watching online. On the other hand, online services on platforms like YouTube and TV allow us to reach inactive members and spread the gospel further. The key is to encourage people to attend services in person, because that's the best way to receive full blessings and prepare for Christ’s return. However, we can't just stop these broadcasts—they allow us to stay connected with those who are less active. It's not a black-and-white issue; it's about finding a balance.
Chief NAC Ghana Reporter: What led the Church to choose Ghana as the host for this District Apostles' Assembly? What was behind the decision and how would this meeting impact the NAC ministry in the future, particularly in West Africa or Ghana?
District Apostle Ehrich: About two years ago, I suggested to the Chief Apostle, "Please come to Ghana. I would love to host the District Apostles' (DA) meeting here." It was the first time such a meeting had been held in Ghana, and we have wonderful brothers and sisters here, as well as vibrant congregations. That’s how the decision was made to bring the DA meeting to Ghana. Also, during the District Apostles Meetings, we speak on various topics related to the International Church not just specific to one region like Ghana, Germany, or the USA. There may not be an immediate, direct impact, but it is very important for the Chief Apostle and District Apostles to come together to discuss important issues affecting the entire Church.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: Should we expect any changes in ministries or church activities as a result of this meeting? Could you share your hopes for the remainder of your visit to Ghana?
District Apostle Ehrich: In my view, that’s not the case, that at every District Apostles meeting, we discuss changes in ministries and church activities. Instead, we reflect on the past and consider the future direction of our ministries. Decisions on specific changes were not made at this meeting. Also, my hope is that tomorrow we will have a divine service with the Chief Apostle and all the District Apostles. I believe this will bring blessings to our brothers and sisters working in God’s service here in Ghana. It’s crucial, however, that we align our lives with the Gospel, because without that, this service or visit won’t have its full impact.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: Hello District Apostle, could you kindly introduce yourself and share your impressions of Ghana so far? How large is your district in Indonesia, and what are the demographics like?
District Apostle Edy: My name is Edy Isnugroho, and I am the District Apostle for South-East Asia. Ghana is a beautiful country, and the climate here is similar to Indonesia’s—humid and tropical. Indonesia is a big country, made up of five islands with a population of around 270 million. Unlike Ghana, about 80% of the population is Muslim, and only 20% follow other religions, including Christianity. The New Apostolic Church in Indonesia forms a small minority within that minority.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: What message would you like to send to the New Apostolic brethren in Indonesia from Ghana? And please tell us some more about the noticeable bamboo musical instrument used during services?
District Apostle Edy: To my brothers and sisters in Indonesia? Yes, we are a small flock, but seeing many New Apostolic brethren here in Ghana fills me with pride. We are truly blessed to be New Apostolic Christians. And, yes! We use an instrument called ‘Angklung’, made from bamboo. It’s a traditional instrument from the Java tribe in Indonesia. The late District Apostle Tansahtikno introduced it to the church to encourage the youth and Sunday School participation in divine services’ music. It’s easy to make, affordable, and requires at least six persons to play.
Bishop Eric Ampadu: How would you describe your overall experience in Ghana, and your hopes for the rest of your visit?
District Apostle Soko: It’s been wonderful! Ghanaians are incredibly friendly, much like Zambians. I truly feel at home here. The highlight of my visit will be the divine service with the Chief Apostle. I’ll take with me fond memories of Ghana. I was excited when I learned we’d be coming here this year, especially because I still cherish the memories from our 2019 visit to Cape Coast with the Chief Apostle.